Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
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Posted - 2016.10.25 23:17:05 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:Lord Kailethre wrote:Matar Ronin wrote:Impressive numbers.
Kudos to the participants and to all those whose previous flights have helped to establish such efficient methods of engagement. It's quite unlike you to be so unilaterally positive. What's happened? Simple, they posted a 71 to 1 kill to death ratio. (Probably a tad higher than 71 in fact) These pilots are the first to seriously kick Drifter asses. Drifters have shown up all over New Eden like they own the place. Today for perhaps the first time in a long time people all over New Eden can have hope that humans will prevail against the Drifters. Mark your Calendars and remember their names because this might be a date that is historic. The day humanity stopped just fighting back and started winning. So yes I am damn pleased about the excellent actions of these brave few pilots. All New Eden should be.
I think you've forgotten about the entirety of the Defense of the Throne Worlds campaign.
The numbers of Drifter vessels destroyed in last week's engagement are nothing compared to the sorties every night of that campaign.
Morwen Lagann
CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar
Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium
Owner, The Golden Masque
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Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
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Posted - 2016.10.26 21:06:16 -
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And as a participant in both the aforementioned campaign and in this particular fleet, just like Alizabeth - I'm going to state, from a position of knowledge and authority, that you, as someone external to the entire thing, are wrong about much of this where your opinions and assertions are concerned.
Let's go down the line:
1) "The fact that is was executed by more then just pilots from the empire is why it can be claimed by all the people of New Eden."
With all due respect to Alizabeth, SERAPH is first and foremost an Amarr-centric outfit. It's even in the name - E for Empire, as in Amarr Empire. While similarly 'closed' in recruitment to what we internally referred to as the "Drifter Fight Club" during the Throne Worlds campaign, DFC was, in contrast, led and piloted in majority, by non-Amarr. I would have to go look through fleet rosters to check the exact demographics. (Which I can do, it'll just take some time. I'm rather busy dealing with a fair number of Drifters and Seekers on my doorstep today.)
The fleet on Friday had, of its twelve combatants, three people who aren't really affiliated with the Empire. One was with the State. The other two were independents. Neither the Republic, nor the Federation, really, get to lay any claim to this 'victory'.
The Throne Worlds campaign fleets, particularly the ones that I led, on the other hand, included pilots directly affiliated with the Federation and Republic, and therefore, actually could make that claim in some sense.
2) "[...] it is my opinion that the "human pilots engaged versus the Drifters are better served by setting aside human vs. human political disputes for the duration of the fight"."
Similarly to the above, this does not really apply to Friday's operation. Everyone in that fleet was largely on the same "side" before taking Drifters into account. If you want examples of your opinion in action, for the moment you should be looking at ARC's fleets instead, which regularly have members of opposing militia in fleet together.
Alizabeth can back me up on this: SERAPH's primary 'goal' is little more than just killing Drifters. It's not about cooperation, it's not about multiculturalism. It's about killing Drifters, full stop.
3) "Although you might be able to compare the number of destroyed vessels I think the outstanding kill to death ratio by a small group of skilled pilots is something that stands out. I can not agree it is nothing, regardless of what you compare it to."
Even if we put the number of Drifters destroyed in a single sitting aside, under my command, the fleets in the Throne Worlds campaign lost fewer crew over a period of months than were aboard the one Svipul that was lost last Friday in SERAPH's fleet. Individual engagements in that campaign were against thirteen or fourteen Drifters at once. At most, Friday encountered three.
If you want to give credit where credit is due, the breakthrough here is in the new fleet doctrine that was being tested more than it is in anything else. Everything else you suggest is a breakthrough, was accomplished months ago during the defense of the Throne Worlds.
I would argue that Alizabeth's second point that we confirmed that the Drifters are still a threat isn't much of a breakthrough, since we had been given no indication they had stopped being a threat, but all things considered that is a rather minor quibble and I don't think she or I need to waste time fussing back and forth over it.
Morwen Lagann
CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar
Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium
Owner, The Golden Masque
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